Is this experiment not govt funded?

How do I contact the IDF I have an airstrike target for them

They said they’re willing to, but only in exchange for a permanent ceasefire and the release of Palestinian prisoners

Ok but the weapons are still flowing. It’s all theater until that changes.

He literally moved the us embassy to Jerusalem. He’s definitely not pro hamas

So instead of voting for a 3rd party that’s actually anti-zionist, ur gonna vote for one of the only people who could make the situation worse than genocide Joe?

Under the ottomans wasn’t the region relatively peaceful?

I mean ideally you could work towards a single secular state, that way you don’t have Hamas in power and Israel doesn’t get to commit genocide.

Unfortunately the power here is held by Israel, and there’s a 0 percent chance they would willingly give up their ethnostate and live in peace with Palestinians unless they were forced to.

I’ve successfully boycotted Israel (I’m broke and I’m not buying anything)

“hamas is using human shields and you defend them…”

But Ukraine can do it and (correctly) you still defend and support them.

Hamas was originally elected because they ran as the anti corruption party, and because the PA are collaborationists. If you want to get Palestinians to broadly support someone other than Hamas, you have to show that the other guys can get results. Otherwise people continue to join hamas, because that’s their only mechanism of resistance.

Just curious, what are your opinions on Ukraine and Russia? Do you defend Ukraine even tho they did the same things?

Send in soldiers to go kill Hamas guys without leveling an entire apartment building?

Or undermine Hamas politically by not making the PA seem like Israeli cucks.

The over a thousand people held without charges would disagree with you. Are trusted human rights organizations fake news now?

I mean if anti settler violence is terrorism then yea I wholeheartedly support terrorism. Settlers should not be there.

Also idc who does it. If someone is held without charges in prison, they’ve been taken hostage by the state.

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They’re Palestinian women and children, not terrorists. It’s a trade of innocents for innocents

God I hope they track down Monday and kill that terrorist son of a bitch.

Currently, Israel is killing civilians and children at a higher rate than Yemen. And yemens population is 16 times that of gaza.

It is bad but you have to include context. The context may show that it may be not a cleansing at all.

Gotcha yea. The context here is that Israel has explicitly stated that it wants to make jews an ethnic majority in certain areas of the West Bank, and in order to do this it has kicked Palestinians out so in this case it is ethnic cleansing.

I get what ur saying about wanting details, but the second case wouldn’t be apartheid or ethnic cleansing if there weren’t people there before. But yeah, I should have just elaborated first. Is the “armed guards, enforced separation, treated as less than settlers on their own land, regularly killed” enough?

Apartheid? Gaza is quite tight, yes, but it’s not exactly Kowloon. How exactly could they show the world that they badly need more land?

Apartheid more accurately describes the West Bank imo, Gaza is more like one long ongoing war crime. The blockade is collective punishment. It prevents Palestinians from receiving certain medical care, and there’s shortages of a ton of things. I know of people who have been banned from lifesaving cancer treatment due to the blockade and have died.

Israel didn’t destroy anything on a land before occupying/populating it, did they?

Are we talking when they first started occupying, or are we talking closer to now? Because yes in both cases they do destroy stuff. They have always burned down villages if they didn’t want them to be there. At first they planted trees on top of them to completely erase any traces of it, I don’t know if they still do that. I don’t think they burned down as much stuff in Gaza, but settlers destroyed some of the stuff in Gaza as they were being pulled out, and Israel bulldozed their airport before that. You have to keep in mind that this was a populated area, Israel forced Palestinians out and build their own stuff on top of it.

And in the west bank, they literally just went in and destroyed roads, monuments, and water infrastructure for the fun of it.

At some point there were big populations of jews in arab countries, and now there is no such thing. Isn’t that what would we call cleansing?

Yes, it was horrific. However the correct response to that is not to ethnically cleanse different people, it’s a military intervention to stop the ethnic cleansing.

I’m not seeing any record that would show Jews/Israeli are somehow driven by a desire to destroy a certain nation.

Jews definitely aren’t. If anyone says that, they’re antisemitic and the proper response is to punch them in the face. Israeli politicians on the other hand, have made it very clear that they intend to have 1 Israeli state with a Jewish majority encompassing all of Palestine. Some Israelis have gone as far as to say they want Lebanon too, which is completely ridiculous because Hezbollah would kick their asses.

I think I saw a Palestinian with dental crowns. I can imagine one or two countries live in much more horrific conditions.

I’m sure if there was a clear cause for their suffering, they would hate that cause much more than the Palestinians have been taught to hate Israel.

Not sure what you’re talking about. Not seeing signs of Israeli army being overall incompetent.

Are we talking about incompetence or the moral standard we hold armies to, I’m confused. If you’re worried about incompetence, I’d say October 7th was a sign that it’s incompetent, as well as its loss against Hezbollah in Lebanon during the Lebanese civil war (Battle of Bint Jbeil, 5,000 IDF soldiers lost to 150 Hezbollah fighters).

but my understanding and expectation is that Israel will proceed to be transparent about its actions, and will respond to war crime allegations properly, if not now then eventually.

Your understanding is wrong unfortunately. Israel commits war crimes all the time and gets away with it. It admitted to killing journalists (with a sniper, not an airstrike). I’m gonna point to the great march of return again. They killed marked medics and children as young as 2 with sniper fire. This is a war crime. In fact they tend to not provide any evidence that their bombing targets are valid military targets.

In fact, because Hamas rockets usually kill so few, and countries have a responsibility during war to not harm civilians and civilian infrastructure in excess of the military advantage expected, I would argue that almost every single Israeli airstrike before October 7th, and most of them afterwards, is also a war crime, even if there were rockets there. And Amnesty International agrees.

I don’t think it’s okay to put the burden on Israel while it should be Hamas who could show everyone they are not mindless monsters first.

Gotcha, and I saw the part about Hamas wanting to destroy Israel. I think back in 1948 Israel showed the Palestinians how horrific they were, but Palestinians were still willing to come to the table since then, so I don’t think Israel can use the october 7th excuse.

If Israel genuinely wants to seek a 2 state solution, and negotiating with Hamas is off the table (I still think its worth a try, but regardless), then they should start by improving conditions in the west bank, getting rid of checkpoints, withdrawing all of the settlers, etc. That would show Palestinians that actually peaceful negotiation can work, and Hamas’s support would collapse and Israel could negotiate with someone else from Gaza.

Or alternatively, they could turn themselves into a secular state instead of an ethnostate. This would also improve conditions in the west bank, it would satisfy the PLO (which includes the PFLP and Fatah), and ultimately it would also result in Hamas’s support collapsing.

They’ve done neither of these, instead building more and more settlements in the west bank, showing that they aren’t interested in peace, and leaving Palestinians with only Hamas/PIJ/PFLP/DFLP/Fatah(militant wing) as options for their liberation.

Edit: holy crap these comments are getting long af lol