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  • MotoAsh@lemmy.worldtomemes@lemmy.worldIt must be a test
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    27 days ago

    Exactly, and religion says we have free will, which supposedly removes us by choice from the control of “God”. How can you fail to see how that’s pretty damn close to a software engineer going, “fuck it, let’s see what these little shits can actually do.”? You could look at the variables going in to every separate character and know what they’d do 100% of the time. You’d almost certainly have an idea what the whole thing would lead to.

    … and here’s the kicker: you’re not God! Any religious person readily dismisses problems with technically disproving allegory with what ultimately comes down to, “God is smarter than you”. Since allegory is the only way to compare things that don’t actually exist, you have to observe how each separate piece has a nugget of truth in it, and believers latch on to it, even if it’s the mere appearance of truth.

    “God works in mysterious ways” is very, very much an actual thought-terminating cliche for the religious. You and me see how the allegory doesn’t hold up. They choose not to or sometimes literally cannot suss through all of the fluff.


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    28 days ago

    Yes that’s part of the point. Just like any good lie, one that works well has to have a grain of truth. Even grains of truth that do not actually defend a point can be used to construct very convincing lies, like religion.

    I am pointing at some of those tiny, itty bitty and not justifying in any way grains of truth that religion relies on. It does not make sense on the whole, but individual pieces that people readily latch on to have some truth, or semblance of truth.

    An all-knowing being allowing the world to continue on its own despite knowing what will happen does NOT disprove religion on its own. At all. It also does not prove religion in any way. The entire premise is flawed, but that’s the point: people latch on to the grains of truth, not the whole premise. At least until after they’ve drank the koolaid.



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    28 days ago

    I don’t use autocorrect because it’s worse than normal typos. The fact you keep trying to bring it back to some personal failing of mine instead of trying to understand the point is fucking pathetic. Do better. “Ohh, you’re being mean, that means you didn’t make a point!” … and you have the gall to call me the child. Fucking. Pathetic. Adults can take an insult without falling apart.


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    28 days ago

    Yes, and I am pointing out how you’re not debating anything, because God’s not real, dumbass. There are dozens of reasons God as described in the bible doesn’t ACTUALLY make sense.

    That’s the main point I was working from, yet your dumb ass comes in here thinking, “but that still doesn’t make sense tho” is making ANY point.

    I STARTED by saying God doesn’t mzke sense but the PIECES can in SPECIFIC ways.

    You pointing out that God is nonsensical still is literally a non-point.




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    28 days ago

    God doesn’t make sense as described in the Bible either, so no it is not wrong to describe him in a way that “isn’t how he works”

    You don’t know either. He doesn’t work. At all. The Christian God is not real, and the fact you think you know better how “He” works instead of engaging with the idea I’m attempting to present is frankly pathetic. You’re defending your own emotions, not making any logical defense of a God that LITERALLY CANNOT exist.


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    29 days ago

    Internal Logic is something many, many people utterly fail to understand. I fail to understand how those morons think, probably because they quite literally are not thinking.

    The Bible is absolutely RIFE with contradictions and broken logic. If I were inclined to conspiracy, I would say religion is EXACTLY the test a species should pass before they are respected. Fall for religious tripe? Sorry, not developed enough to join the adults at the table!!


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    29 days ago

    No. No that is literally not how software engineers operate. At all. Ever. Most engineers think the tests will pass with flying colors. The tests are ran anyways.

    So much BS is just people making assumptions about a being much, much smarter than themselves… Maybe God just wants to turn the wheel on the grinder, even though it would take an Act of God to ruin the result…

    There is quite literally NO valid reason for God to NOT turn the wheel on the grinder… Saying so does not back up any specific religion, just pokes holes in any fallacious assertion that God has no reason to turn the wheel. He doesn’t need one that makes sense to you. Period.

    All God needs to do for free will and “all knowing” to be true is for God to decide NOT to intervene in personal decisions. Yes, that blows Christians and other morons who pray to God out of the water, but it does not invalidate the concept of God at face value to not line up with idiots’ cliff notes of who God is.


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    29 days ago

    I mean, I really do NOT defend religion, because over all, it really is a crock of BS twisted history and Baby’s First Philosophy rolled in to garbage cults.

    … Though there ARE multiple reasons an “all-knowing” god would test their creations, even if they “knew the results”. This happens all the time in the real world. Some engineers just enjoy seeing their creations do something, even if it’s doomed to be a prototype. Software engineers test their stuff all the time when they “know” what it will do.

    Hell, 99.9% of science itself is getting a solid idea before you run the experiment. Remember: scientists test hypotheses, not hair-brained ADHD shower thoughts.

    So while religion is overall total BS for dummies, individual components DO make sense, in their own way. It wouldn’t be so popular if the pieces didn’t make more sense than the whole.