There are many DNS names options. Which one do you use?

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    1 year ago

    You shouldn’t use .local for your manually defined local domain names if you plan to ever use mdns/avahi/bonjour/zeroconf.

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        1 year ago

        Hopefully AVM gets to register fritz.box then, because they’ve been setting up their customers with that as their internal domain for ages…

    • Meow.tar.gz@lemmy.goblackcat.com
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      1 year ago

      I actually use .lan for an internal domain but I guess I could use a real domain with the DNS-01 challenge and have real internal certificates. I had not thought about that until just now.

  • redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com
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    1 year ago

    According to IETF, you should only use .intranet, .internal, .private, .corp, .home or .lan for your private network ( RFC 6762 Appendix G ). Using other TLDs might cause issues in the future, especially since new gTLDs seems to show up every few months or so, which can collide with the TLD you use for your local network.

      • redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com
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        Interesting, so this is the latest recommendation? Which is probably why I haven’t seen it in the wild yet, at least in my circles.

        Which means they probably going to cash out release gTLDs for .intranet, .internal, .private, .corp, .home and .lan soon…

    • vegetaaaaaaa@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      A problem with the .lan TLD (maybe others from this list) is that web browsers do not consider it a TLD when you type it in the address bar, and only show you the option to search for that term in your default search engine. You have to explicitly type https:// before it, to have the option to visit the URL.

      E.g type example.com in the address bar -> pressing Enter triggers going to https://example.com. Type example.lan -> pressing Enter triggers a search for example.lan using your default search engine.

      • distantorigin@kbin.cafe
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        Little known trick–or perhaps everyone knows it and is quietly laughing behind my back–with Chromium browsers and Firefox (and maybe Safari, I’m not sure), you can add a slash to the end of an address and it will bypass the search.

        So, for example, my router on the LAN goes by the hostname “pfsense”. I can then type pfsense.lan/ into my address bar and it will bring me to the web UI, no HTTP/s needed.

    • Kata1yst@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      I can vouch for the fact that .local stopped working suddenly in most browsers a year or two ago, I was forced to migrate to .internal

    • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I use subdomains, i.<external domain>, w.<ext> for wifi, few others for vms and containers.

      With wireguard everything just works, and wireguard overhead over wireless is negligible even on wifi6.

    • TheInsane42@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Same here. I have several domains, one is used for servers and email, 2nd for websites, 3rd for messing around (test setups) and a 4th is almost unused now, but with the demise of twitter and reddit I’m thinking of using that one for the fediverse (it’s my username in national tld).

      BTW internal and external dns run on different systems and all private zones are dnssec signed. (Loved the challenge on setting that up correctly)

    • tiwenty@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Exactly the same. I’d like to add that my devices still get a .lan TLD from the router.

  • KairuByte@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    *.internal.domain.name since ssl certs are easier to get when you’re using an owned domain name.

  • preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz
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    There’s a draft rfc that defines “.home.arpa” as an internal. It looks stupid and totally misses the point, but works.

  • SymbolicLink@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    I bought a .com for like $10 CAD from Cloudflare that uses a URL not linked to me.

    Maybe overly paranoid, but it also makes it easy to get SSL certificates for my lab.

  • Still@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    I use either .home or an actual domain that I own (makes it easy for https certs and not having to go out of the network and back in)

    • Cerothen@lemmy.ca
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      I also use .lan I used to use .local for years until I started to have conflict issues with .local resolution on Android when they started using mdns

      • distantorigin@kbin.cafe
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        I didn’t care about any of this (my off the shelf Router used .local) and then I started selfhosting more and using pFsense as a router OS. It defaulted to using home.arpa, which was so objectionable that I spent time looking into RFC 6762 and promptly reverted to .lan forever.

        The official choices were: .intranet, .internal, .home, .lan, .corp, and .private. LAN was the shortest and most applicable. Choice made.

  • nsaobserverbot@kbin.social
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    fritz.box for the machines themselves because Fritz!BOX (although handed out by Pi-Hole),but .lan for anything going over the local proxy towards the same machine for TLS.

    Some machines use my custom domain name instead of .lan, if they need to be accessible from outside. So these last ones go directly over the local proxy internally, but automatically over CloudFlare Tunnel and Authentik when not at home. The proxy being Caddy.