do the right wing guys think it’s like a draco malfoy thing where they’re a good guy underneath?

like when it’s like a lady and a cop and the lady seems like a normal sorta boring suburban lady

do you know what i mean. this is one of the things where if you try to ask an AI bot it yells at you

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    Leftists want to murder babies, saying that its womens choice if they want to murder babies. Thats cartoonishly evil.

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      If you think murdering babies is not evil, I don’t know what to say, it seems pretty self evident.

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        you’re the one who should go talk to people irl if you think abortion is baby murder

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        Throwaway they are not babies, they are a clump of cells that isn’t self aware

        If you where to apply the reasoning that a clump of non self-aware cells where self aware then you could say that chemotherapy is also murder

        https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/abortion-in-victoria

        https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/amp/article/abortion

        https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/abortion/

        https://www.acog.org/advocacy/facts-are-important/identifying-combating-abortion-myths-misinformation

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion

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          Weird I’m not seeing any links to metaethics, semniotics or ontology. Is that because you fundamentally don’t understand the topic?

          Let’s pop that hubristic little bubble of yours.

          If fetuses are infact little clumps of cells, then how do we differentiate them from other little clumps of cells? Clearly there must be some additional property that lets us differentiate them, and if an additional property exists then it has a possibility of moral relevance. In other words, the mere fact that we can distinguish fetal tissue from other tissue means that we can ascribe moral value, rendering your assertion that it must be morally equal false. Even more dumbed down for you, if A does not equal B then Moral value of A does not have to equal the moral value of B.

          So completely contrary to your claim, the reasoning does not actually follow, because fetuses and cancer cells can be easily determined to be different and ascribed different moral value.

          Edit: Oh my science! I accidentally steel-manned you. I’m so sorry. You’re not saying that fetuses are inherently morally equal to cancer cells, you are saying that self-awareness is the criteria for moral worth (it’s not) and that ascribing moral value to a fetus requires asserting that it is self-aware. Possibly even stupider than denying classification theory.