I think most of us who moved here from Reddit are enjoying our time here on kbin.social. We’ve left a lot of the riff-raff behind us and made new friends with intelligent, thoughtful members of kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon, etc…

But we need to spread out.

Not only have we stressed the server with thousands of immigrating users, but we were being watched by darker forces, namely Meta and Instagram.

A quick search of the net will show that we were not the first mass-migration. The first migration was last year when people from ‘the bird site’ (rhymes with jitter) fled Elon Musk’s new regime. Most of those people moved to Mastodon.

We largely moved to kbin. Kbin.social to be more exact.

I’m a member of both Mastodon and kbin, and a couple of posts shocked me. The first one about Meta I have found again:

https://mastodon.social/@gnarkotics/110568580882355105

The second one about Instagram I have failed to locate, but the gist was that Instagram had reached out to one of the larger Fediverse servers and asked the person who runs to have a meeting ‘off the record’. That person turned them down and told other members of the Fediverse what happened. The general consensus is that this was going to be a monetary offer to allow Instagram to further colonize the Fediverse by purchasing one of the larger servers.

And therein lies the problem: if the majority of users gravitate to a few large servers, then that leaves those larger servers vulnerable to exploitation.

I, as a recent immigrant, did not understand this. I thought that, intuitively, we should all gather in one place and grow the server. It’s the exact opposite. We need to spread out to smaller instances. This didn’t really register with me until I spoke with this person.

https://fedi.getimiskon.xyz/objects/77a0f3cd-6f31-42f7-a3ea-29af8b25c0b3

Remember too that having an account on a smaller instance still allows us to see everything on kbin.social. For example, look at this:

https://kbin.social

We are looking at a mixture of posts from Lemmy and kbin.

Moving to a smaller instance does not limit your interactions. What damages the fediverse is people trying to recreate all of Reddit on one instance.

TLDR: If you like it here, the best thing you can do for the fediverse right now is to set up on one of the less populous instances.

I invite correction and clarifications.

EDIT: Adding further sources below.

Meta/Facebook is inviting Fediverse admins under NDA for “meetings” (mstdn.social)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36384207

Facebook, Inc. is planning to join the Fediverse. How do we make it lose as much money as possible?
https://www.loomio.com/d/QoH98Gg6/facebook-inc-is-planning-to-join-the-fediverse-how-do-we-make-it-lose-as-much-money-as-possible

Beware Of Meta Offering Gifts To Mastodon
https://medium.com/nextwithtech/beware-of-meta-offering-gifts-to-mastodon-6adb317e039d

Meta vs Mastodon: Battle for the Future of Decentralized Social Media
https://marketingnewscanada.com/news/meta-vs-mastodon-battle-for-the-future-of-decentralized-social-media

Legal-Copyright discussion from Mastodon yesterday
ttps://mas.to/@franktaber/110602489997086618

And a cartoon to boot

https://cutie.city/@nuz/110602855304673785

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    You’re probably wrong about what Meta’s intents are for the Fediverse. We’ve heard some things about a prospective product from Meta called “Threads”, which would be connected to the fediverse or the threadiverse. I’m looking forward to what they bring, and what it will mean for communication through Meta. If they can make it more locally focused and make it easier to reach out to people local to me, I will be very interested; doubly if it can be used from a web browser. I actually want a central place to communicate. I also understand that these companies need to make money; and I recognize that I am a user, not a customer. I have no interest in paying, so I’ll defend myself in a marginal way and just keep moving.

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      If you aren’t paying for a service provided by a corporation, you aren’t the customer, you’re the product.

      Meta, as a corporation, is fundamentally subservient to investors to generate profit; if something can’t be monetized it won’t happen. I can’t speak to the specific intent Meta has in expanding into the fediverse, but I can say with confidence based upon not only their long and well documented MALICOUS behavior, but also the basic nature of Capatalistic endeavor that they should now nor ever be trusted to act in good faith. They are incapable of doing so, period.

      I don’t consider myself a hard-line socialist, but the access to information and the discourse surrounding that information should not be determined by an entity whose interests are primarily self serving in nature.

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        I don’t consider myself a hard-line socialist, but the access to information and the discourse surrounding that information should not be determined by an entity whose interests are primarily self serving in nature.

        I don’t have a problem with that, honestly. My interests are primarily self-serving in nature, which is why I’m not interested in paying. If I’m interested in what Meta is doing, I’ll buy more shares. Plus, like I said, I’m interested in the product if it serves my needs; otherwise I don’t need it. I work for a company that’s focused on profit as well, I don’t consider it a shame anymore, since my goal is to make money and keep my money in my pocket as well.